Just in time for the holiday season, Bill O’Reilly invited David Silverman, president of the American Atheists, onto his show ‘The O’Reilly Factor’ to discuss the ‘War on Christmas.’

While Bill O’Reilly makes sure to point out that he has no problem with Silverman being an Atheist, he does take up issue with atheists “messing around” with O’Reilly’s traditions regarding Christmas.

O’Reilly states how he believes that Christianity is a philosophy, and not a religion, and should be treated accordingly by the American government.

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Silverman insists that he is not trying to poke holes or disregard any other religion, but only wishes to see a country that pays equal value to each of its different religious beliefs.

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O’Reilly later goes on to call Silverman’s view “insane,” pointing to the fact that he doesn’t have the votes to get Christmas’s federal holiday status revoked.

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